If you watched the FX series Mrs. America this past Spring, you were, depending on your age, either reminded of or clued into the retrograde attitude of one Phyllis Schlafly, the anti-ERA political activist who wielded more power and influence than many of her contemporary legislative office-holders. So, too, the Miss America Pageant, turning 100 next year, has long set forth particular ideas of what a woman should be. While the Pageant has made some progress toward evolving, it, like Mrs. Schlafly, generally sought to preserve a traditional place for women. Mrs. America referred to a person, but Miss America was and still is an institution, one that has seen numerous controversies as well as some bright spots. As its future teeters on the edge, like many stalwart establishments in this moment, it’s the perfect time to look back at its century-long existence and examine what it hath wrought: the good, the bad, and the beautiful. Margot Mifflin, Professor of English at Lehman College and the Newmark Journalism School has done so. She is the author of Looking for Miss America: A Pageant’s 100-Year Quest to Define Womanhood which will be released by Counterpoint Press on August 4. In this episode, she talks with our great friend and guest interviewer, Beth Harpaz, editor of CUNY SUM.
Jean Halley is Professor of Sociology at the College of Staten Island and is our first repeat guest (a little milestone for us!). We picked up where we left off last year, when we discussed her book Horse Crazy: Girls and the Lives of Horses. Jean’s new work-in-progress is a memoir that includes themes of the Western U.S., race, violence, and memory itself. Most of these themes, along with her exquisite writing, can be observed in the essay “Killing Deer” which was published in Harper’s and which will find a place in her new collection. “I should tell you that the very real possibility of intending to do good, and instead doing bad, has haunted me my whole life,” she writes. “I knew about this particular kind of wrongdoing—it lived as close to me as skin. My family was full of good intentions and terrible happenings.” Jean has explored in depth the role that racism has played in her family and confronts and reveals how it has impacted her own life. In another short and powerful story from her memoir, “Joan Trestle: A Good Egg,” she writes: “Like many white people, even white people like me who know about and acknowledge the reality of boundless racism in our world today, I was surprised at Joan’s racism. Like many white people, I can go through life, naively, free from noticing the racism around me.” She reads the story in this episode.
Jean talks about her experience at the Centre for Multidisciplinary Studies on Racism (CEMFOR) and gives us a sneak preview of another forthcoming project, a book she has co-authored (with Ron Nerio) about the Hillbrow neighborhood of Johannesburg that was known as the queerest space in Africa in the 1980s and in more recent years has been called the most violent neighborhood in the world.
Steve and Kathleen, your curators, haven’t recorded together since Episode 16 in Summer 2018, the one about academic libraries and bathrooms. Before that, they convened for Episode 11, the one where they prattled on about things like the MTA, DNA and cereal for far longer than anyone could have imagined. Episode 4 was the first time they recorded together. Back then, when Indoor Voices was still a toddler, they had grand plans of producing a joint “wraparound” session every few episodes. But we can see how that turned out. It took a global pandemic to get them together again, albeit remotely. Hopefully you, too, are finding a few much-needed bright spots in the form of socially distant reconnections with old friends right now. We hope you enjoy this episode and that you are healthy, comfortable and finding peace of mind in whatever odd places you can.
If you can relate to any of the things we talked about in this episode, we will be surprised and thrilled. Let us know!
Sharon Zukin (see also), Professor Emerita of Sociology at Brooklyn College and the CUNY Graduate Center, is the author of The Innovation Complex: Cities, Tech, and the New Economy. In her new book, just out this week from Oxford U. Press/Academic, Sharon covers hackathons, meetups, Brooklyn’s “Innovation Coastline” and myriad other inventions that would make our grandparents’ heads spin, as well as the impact of the digital/tech economy on workers and on residents.
Sharon is interviewed in this episode by her colleague Richard Ocejo. Richard is Associate Professor of Sociology at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and the CUNY Graduate Center and was our very first guest here on Indoor Voices. The two share a deep knowledge of and zest for the city as well as for the multi-faceted terrain of urban sociology. They discuss the meaning of the term “innovation complex” (yes, there is a nod to psychoanalysis), recent NYC mayors, Amazon HQ2, the evolution of the New York City Economic Development Corporation, and of course, C. Wright Mills.
To read Guillermo Cotto-Thorner’s novel, Manhattan Tropics, is to immerse oneself in the experience of the post-war Puerto Rican migration to New York City. Originally written in 1951, in the author’s native Spanish, Trópico en Manhattan follows the central character, Juan Marcos, as he moves to El Barrio where previous Puerto Rican migrants had settled. The book was in danger of being forgotten altogether, lost in the jumble of history. Thanks to the efforts of a few people who recognized its significance, it is now recovered and discoverable in a bilingual edition published by Arte Público in Spring 2019.
Cristina Pérez Jiménez, assistant professor in the English department at Manhattan College, learned about the original novel from her graduate school literature professor, the late Juan Flores. She became fascinated with the book and its author and told her colleague Bret Maney about it, suggesting it as a translation project. Bret, an assistant professor in the English department at Lehman College, had theretofore translated technical, not literary, texts. But he entered a selection in a translation competition, won the prize, and the rest is (recovered) history. There’s more to the story, of course, which Bret and Cristina share in this episode.
Cristina wrote the compelling and extensively researched introduction, delving into primary sources at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies/Centro de Estudios Puertorriqueños at Hunter College, and Bret’s skillful translation (including a Neoyorquismos-Inglés-Español glossary) deftly captures the feel of another time. The novel specifically describes and pays homage to the lives of Puerto Ricans moving to New York in the 1940s and 50s, but its prescience and universality are noteworthy. And in addition to the fascinating and lively details of the time and place, the novel also has a captivating and suspenseful plot. The translation and its introduction are pleasurable as well as educational.
Gallons of ink have been spilled, or probably more accurately, trillions of bytes have been generated, on the subject of podcasting, so I won’t waste any time telling you how amazingly popular and robust an audio format it is. The introduction to a recent blog post from John Jay College’s Office for the Advancement of Research provides a tidy contextual summary, and if you keep reading the post, you’ll learn about – ahem – a couple of really cool podcasts produced at John Jay. And there are many many more. The CUNY Office of Communications revamped CUNY’s podcast portal in 2019 in order to bring more attention to the many podcasts coming out of the various colleges and departments all around the university.
In this episode, I talked with three of my colleagues about how they use podcasting in their work as faculty members. We hear from Christen Madrazo and Alan Winson, both faculty members in the English department at John Jay, and from Nora Almeida, a library faculty member at New York City College of Technology.
Some of the projects you’ll hear about in the episode:
Life Out Loud, a literary nonfiction podcast series at John Jay, directed by Christen Madrazo
Adam Berlin and Jeffrey Heiman teach in the English department at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. For the last 12 years they have produced a biannual literary journal whose 24th issue will be published this month. The overarching theme of J Journal: New Writing on Justice is justice, expansively defined. Each piece examines contemporary justice issues through superb, entertaining and stirring creative writing in the form of fiction, poetry and personal narrative. Editors Adam and Jeffrey have seen the number of submissions grow significantly over the years as the journal reaches more readers and inspires more writers to contribute to the prestigious publication. J Journal has received national recognition, climbing up in the Pushcart Prize rankings year after year. Submissions come from all over the world — many from inside prison walls — and the authors’ backgrounds are as diverse as their subject matter and writing styles.
According to the editors, the journal’s consistent cover art (issues 1 and 23 pictured here) “speaks of the bold aesthetic within and of John Jay College’s commitment to advocacy for justice.” Consistency and commitment are cornerstones of this project. Adam and Jeffrey spend every Friday in their neighboring offices in a quiet corner of the English department working on the myriad tasks involved in producing such a high quality publication.
In this episode we talked about what goes into putting the journal together, the production and editorial logistics as well as the intellectual and creative thinking. We are grateful to another English Department faculty member, Alan Winson, who generously donated his otherwise free Friday morning to masterfully record the conversation. Alan has a fantastic podcast of his own, so after reading some back issues of J Journal, put in your earbuds and listen to Bar Crawl Radio for an eclectic roster of guests and lively banter over drinks and bar food.
The title above is a perfectly encapsulating phrase from Julia Miele Rodas’ beautifully written and illuminating Autistic Disturbances: Theorizing Autism Poetics from the DSM to Robinson Crusoe. The book is an engaging read for anyone who, like the author herself, finds words “delicious.” Rather than reinventing the wheel, I once again defer to our friends at CUNY SUM for their excellent SUMmary of Julia’s book. Michael Bérubé’s review also does a fine job of commending and contextualizing it. In our episode, Julia is interviewed by her fellow Victorianist and disability studies scholar, Olivia Moy, a pairing that makes for a rich and intimate – in fact, delicious – conversation.
Ray Patton is Associate Professor of History and Faculty Director of the Honors Program and Macaulay Honors College at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. His book, Punk Crisis: The Global Punk Rock Revolution (Oxford University Press, 2018), is a meta-analysis of concurrent happenings in punk culture and global society during the Cold War. In addition to exploring issues surrounding communism, capitalism, neoliberalism, globalism, tiermondisme and a few other -isms, Ray analyzes not only how punk culture played out in Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe but in the U.S. and Jamaica. He also addresses the significant connection between punk and the immigrant experience.
Punk was created and consumed, but it was also used. In 1980s politics across the globe, the primacy of cultural themes – over economic and political ones – makes for complex controversies. As an enigmatic movement that resists alignment with any one political perspective, in the 20th century, punk inadvertently lent itself to co-opting by an array of political operators; some unexpected groups and individuals claimed punk to further their agendas.
In this episode, Ray is interviewed by David Pearson, a fellow punk scholar and adjunct assistant professor in the music and general studies departments at Lehman College. David’s CUNY GC dissertation, “Constructing Music of Rebellion in the Triumphant Empire: Punk Rock in the 1990s United States,” picks up where Ray’s – by virtue of the Cold War’s end – leaves off. But the narrative that Ray analyzes in Punk Crisis is far from over. His consideration of punk as a response to political correctness and to inequality is relevant as these same provocative themes – we might call them crises – confront us in our current moment.
Ray and David met for the first time via this recorded phone conversation and found that they had much in common. In addition to their intellectual interest in punk, it so happens that Ray once played saxophone in a 3rd wave ska-punk band and David is a saxophonist currently performing in the afrotronik funk band Digital Diaspora.